Wednesday, November 5, 2008

Remember When Israel Demanded a King????

As I told you in my last post, I received my copy of the Beth Moore Esther study in the mail on Monday. In the first lesson, she quotes a book called "How To Read the Bible for All Its Worth" by Fee and Stuart. One of the quotes she uses from this book is referring to Biblical narratives (Bible stories)......Fee and Stuart say "the story they (Bible narratives) tell is not so much our story as it is God's story---and it becomes ours as He 'writes' us into it"

This morning as I read 1 Samuel 8 & 9 (see the end of this post for a refresher course on this passage), I remembered this quote and thought it was very appropriate for 'such a time as this'.....................Remember when Israel demanded a king? They didn't really care who or what kind of king, but pretty much any king would do. Samuel prayed and the Lord told him that the people were not rejecting Samuel, but were rejecting God Himself. Are you seeing how America is being 'written' into this story???

America demanded a king. The people are so disgusted with Bush they were ready for any king (regardless of his views). The issue with our country is not about race, party, or political views. The major issue in our country is that America has rejected God. And our rejection of God DID NOT start with the election of Barack Obama. I cant tell you the exact time our rejection of God as a nation began, but I can tell you that over time it has only become more and more clear that America is no longer a nation that trusts in God. America may still be one nation under God (aren't we all under God?), but she is also a nation who is in love with sin (a trip to San Fransisco will tell you that).

In Galatians, the Bible says, "Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows". I believe this also applies to our country. As a nation, I fear that we just might be getting ready to reap what we have been sowing for years. Galatians 6:8 says, "one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life". No matter who you voted for, it is easy to see that over the past several years America has sown to please her sinful nature. We have stood by while innocent babies were killed and used the excuse that it is a woman's body and she has a right to do with it what she pleases. Anyone who claims to be a believer knows that is a lie straight from the pit of hell. We have remained silent while homosexuality has become commonplace instead of an abominable act that is not the norm. I have never read a version of the Bible that said homosexuality was ordained by God, but I am sure if I were to visit a liberal Episcopal church, I could find one. We have stood in silence as the word of God has been perverted to encourage our sinful lifestyles. If you are TRULY a believer, you know that homosexuality is sin plain and simple.....there is no grey's black and white.

Speaking of black and white.......This election has brought up so many questions and concerns for me (and not just concerns about the candidates). I am concerned by people who call themselves Christians, but vote contrary to the Bible. I am concerned by people who call themselves Christians, but continue to live like the rest of the world, look, talk and act just like the rest of the world. A Christian is not someone who looks like the rest of the world.....we are to be different. Can you truly say that there is something different about you? Whatever happened to being a "chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light" 1 Peter 2:9. Don't misunderstand me here, I am not just talking about the election, but about satan's power to deceive.

I have to wonder (and not because of the election) how many people satan has deceived into believing they are saved, when they have never REALLY made the change that comes with salvation. I do not pretend to know anyone's heart (sometimes it is difficult to know my own), but the Bible is clear that where there is no change, there is no salvation. The devil is the master deceiver and he would love nothing more than to allow people to believe that they are on their way to heaven, when in fact, they are still lost and on their way to hell. It is easy to talk the talk, but walking the walk is a different thing entirely. Billy Graham has said that he believes that as many as 80-90% of the people who sit in the pews of churches every Sunday in America are unsaved. If that is true (and I know Billy Graham is only a man not God) then, there are millions of people who think they are "okay", but will split hell wide open. If that thought does not sober you, then nothing will !!!!

So, if you have read this blog for any length of time, you know that I have been passionate about this election. I am not afraid of what Obama will do as president, but I am concerned that his liberal agenda will cause America to slide further down the slippery slope of sin that she has been on for years. I fear that Christians will be silenced even more than ever in the name of tolerance. I believe our faith will be tested like never before in the history of America. I do not hate Obama (or anyone else for that matter). I hate sin because God hates sin. I hate sin because it nailed Jesus to the sin, your sin, everyone's sin nailed Jesus to the cross.

When I voted last week, I voted not by party, but by Christian values and my candidate lost. So, the only thing left for me (and everyone else in America who is concerned) is pray. We need to pray for Barack Obama....pray that his mind will be changed on the issues of abortion and gay marriage among other things. Pray that he will be honest in his dealings as leader of the free world. Pray that he will not continue to oppose Israel. Pray for his safety and the safety of his wife and girls. Pray that prejudiced groups will not plot evil against him --- that his election will help ease the problem of prejudice in our country. Pray that he would not be able to rest until he is in right standing with THE One and Only Holy God. But most of all, we need to pray that God's will be done in America.

1 Samuel 8
When Samuel grew old, he appointed his sons as judges for Israel. The name of his firstborn was Joel and the name of his second was Abijah, and they served at Beersheba. But his sons did not walk in his ways. They turned aside after dishonest gain and accepted bribes and perverted justice.
So all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah. They said to him, "You are old, and your sons do not walk in your ways; now appoint a king to lead us, such as all the other nations have."
But when they said, "Give us a king to lead us," this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the LORD. And the LORD told him: "Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king. As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will do."
Samuel told all the words of the LORD to the people who were asking him for a king. He said, "This is what the king who will reign over you will do: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots. Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants. He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants. Your menservants and maidservants and the best of your cattle and donkeys he will take for his own use. He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves. When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day."
But the people refused to listen to Samuel. "No!" they said. "We want a king over us. Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles."
When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the LORD. The LORD answered, "Listen to them and give them a king."


jcdisciple said...


It appears to me that God is impressing the same things on His children. To be honest I am excited that this is happening and causing us to get sober about our walk with Him. I am weeping for my nation and for the Obama's. They are deceived and need to have their eyes opened. I pray whole heartedly for their protection and I pray that the TRUE Church will submit under God and the leadership He has chosen by praying for him and not reviling him. This is an opportunity to be Jesus to our whole nation and our reaction to this election will be everything. I pray our "national" speakers (James Dobson and the like) will hold true to Jesus and not react as our enemies of the past have reacted to us.


Thank you for loving Jesus and sharing His truth.

Mari said...

Bethanne - you are echoing my sentiments. I have thought a lot of Saul in the last few weeks and also felt this is exactly what America is doing. We need to pray - For Barack Obama and for our country.

Eddie said...

A brief note to jcdisiple: you mention that you hope that the church will submit to the leadership that God has chosen. Could you ever imagine that perhaps, God did not have anything to do with our choice of President. It might just be, and of course I don't know the mind of God, but it might just be that God allowed us to have what we wanted and it might not have been His will at all. Just think about it. God is sovereign and He knows what we will do and He has a plan, but that plan was made with all knowledge and wisdom of what we would do.

Second: Jeremiah 17: 9-10 says,
The heart is deceitful above ALL things, and desperately wicked: Who can know it?
I the Lord, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his doings.

Do I believe that God would give us something that He knows goes against His will for our lives?
No, but He will allow us that thing that is against HIs will because He wants us to become fully devoted, obedient children of His. He says, in First John, If you love me you will obey me.

Just needed to get those things out in open. No ill will meeant, just had to say it as it is what I believe. I also realize that everyone does not agree with me.

Fran said...

Oh gosh this is so good Beth. I too have deep concern but will remain faithful to pray for the heart and mind of our president elect.

Much love,

maryanne420 said...

bethanne, my sentiments, exactly! my husband and i didn't even watch the speech. instead, we prayed in the spirit and i commiserated with one of my girlfriends.

i kept thinking about what Jesus said on the cross, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing."

Greg P. said...

I love the passion in this post and in the comments, it really runs deep! If only more of us had this we would be celebrating McCain today.

From what I remember Christianity started to erode in 1963 when Madeleine Murray O'Heir was able to get prayer removed from public schools.

I agree with Billy Graham's assessment of unsaved in churches. satan puts false hope in the unsaved, letting them believe that they ARE saved. He puts doubt in believers that we are NOT saved because maybe we aren't good enough to be saved. He is a master of deception and someday he will get his... AND good!

I pray for the Obama family also and especially that they are kept out of harm's way. I pray for God to open his eyes and to rethink his ideas.

Time will tell, but, God is always in control.

Heidi Zawisza said...

Bethanne, I wish this post could be published for all of America to see. You have NAILED it sister!!!
I have been emotional all day, but know that God will ultimately prevail and America is SOOOOOO going to be reaping what she has sown. I agree that we need to be praying for Obama. It's the only thing we can do.

Ms. Trish said...

thanks for leaving a comment on my page. He is in control...He knows...He is not shocked by the outcome.

as I was in my word...meditating and crying about the thought of why people are pro-abortion...God took me to His word and showed me Pharaoh & Herod... how they wanted to kill the all the Jewish babies just to have "their way" ...but in the midst of one of the greatest tragedies of mankind's mistakes...God raised 2 leaders that changed the world forever...Moses and Jesus.

i believe He is getting ready to raise His Children adn give them a voice...voices to shout victory in the middle of this. He is raising up firebrands...Christians who refuse to keep quiet, who will not back down...who will be fully soul'd out to Him.

your blog title says it best...we're waiting for the shout...and when we do the walls of Jericho come tumbling down.


ocean mommy said...

Amen to this and to your dad's comments.

Pray is what we have to do EVERY DAY!!! Now more than ever.

Hugs to you

Mommyluann said...

It is indeed a sobering thought about the "lost" we sit with each week.No, we can "know" but we can be fruit inspectors. I prayed today that my "loss" and "grief" of sorts would be carried in such a way that it did not taste of sour grapes. I rest in the fact that God is still on the throne. He is not surprised or astonished.
He is ever so much in control.

Sandi Hixson said...

thank you thank you for this post.......i wish more believers would be this bold.....but i love what eddie said (your dad, right?)....he put into words exactly what i have been thinking, but had not voiced my opinion yet, because everyone says...well, it's God's will(He let it happen, after all)....... He is in control, which of COURSE, he IS!.........but i definitely do not feel that the election of senator Obama is HIS WILL.....i don't know how it could be.......if we are praying and voting God's will....based upon Biblical fact, largely in reference to the killing of unborn babies and the proliferation of the gay agenda.......then, because mr. Obabma won......that does NOT change what we perceived as God's shows that God is giving our nation what it deserves....and what it desires, turning us back to our own sinfulness........and that, my friend, a scary, scary place to be......our JOB of born again Christians, and Christ Followers.....just became the hardest and most difficult thing we will ever do!

Anonymous said...

Great Post! I got my Beth Moore book today too! I can't wait to start reading!

On all things, I completely agree..Yeah don't fall over...I AGREE 200%

I also agree 300% with Billy Graham, and it's so sad..but Im like you, I wouldn't question anyone's heart, I do good to deal with my own...


alliekat said...

I agree with everything you said. And I agree with what Eddie (my Dad) said. I was truly sad last night to the point of worry. I was sad because I felt that the Christians of our nation had let us all down for not standing up for what they know deep down is right. As I was surfing the blog (Jenny Hope) world I came across the song "Now Behold the Lamb". Our church sang that song last year at Christmas time and I had really forgotten about it. If you have never heard it, you can go to you tube and search and there are several versions. As I listened to it and the words, all fear and worry went away and it was wonderful. I would encourage everyone to listen to it. It reminded me that no matter what "HE is the precious lamb of God." We can't understand why he loves us so, but no matter what, for those that are truly Christians it will all be OK! We have that promise.

jennyhope said...

my prayer for a few days was that God would not hand us over to ourselves as a nation and give us the king that we demand. He is KING OF KINGS...but I just wanted to intercede for the nation that people would return to God. I can't say much because my attitude hasn't been so hot but people are so mislead when they do call themselves believers but do not respect the sanctity of life and marriage.